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		<title>By: Ralph A</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ralph A</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 01:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t be too concerned with posters accusing you of &quot;wearing a tin foil hat.&quot; People who respond like that are either low-paid government workers on contract from some two-bit CIA front operation, who don&#039;t even have a clue about why they are being paid $4.25 an hour to post such attack messages, or they are simply stupid people who blindly swallow and accept whatever ridiculous lies that some so-called &quot;authority&quot; figure tells them. 

There are plenty of Americans who are very skeptical about 911 and the anthrax story. Of course any thinking person quickly figured out that the anthrax could not have come from some foreign source like the CIA and the media wanted the public to believe. And most thinking people also quickly realized that there was a strong connection between the fear created by the anthrax scare in the wake of 911 and the speedy passage of the so-called &quot;Patriot Act.&quot;

I once met one of the authors of the &quot;Patriot Act,&quot; who was participating in a debate about civil liberties. One of the people in the audience asked him a very important question: &quot;How long were you working on writing your section of the Patriot Act, as it could not have possibly been written in such  short time after 911 happened?&quot;

The Patriot Act lawyer danced around the question, but never gave an answer. So I asked him the question again: &quot;It seems that you still haven&#039;t answered an earlier question: when did you first start writing the Patriot Act?&quot; Again, he failed to answer the question.

The reason the lawyer dodged the question repeatedly was because the Patriot Act was obviously written LONG BEFORE 911 and the Anthax scare. The shadow government was obviously waiting for just the right opportunity to introduce it.

On the anthrax scare itself, the most obvious thing that any thinking person would recognize is that nearly all of the victims are people that Bush would have liked to get rid of. None of them could be people on an &quot;enemy list&quot; from some so-called terrorist organization overseas.

And I&#039;m sure that I&#039;m not the only person who wondered what Ivins&#039; handwriting looked like, having seen samples of the handwriting on letters and envelopes that one of the real insider-terrorist operators prepared. There surely must of been many samples of Ivins&#039; REAL handwriting available? 

Thinking people were not surprised at all that the so-called government &quot;investigators&quot; would NOT produce a SINGLE sample of Ivins&#039; real handwriting. And the obvious reason for that, I&#039;m sure, is that it looks NOTHING like the handwriting on those letters and envelopes we&#039;ve seen that were sent to liberal members of Congress and to the photo-journalist Bob Stevens, who published a picture of Bush&#039;s drunk daughter Jenna humping another drunk female student in a tabloid publication. (Stevens was the first victim of the anthrax attacks.) Just exactly the person that bin Laden or Ivins would pick, right? 

The links below provide plenty of material for thinking people to ponder. As for the posters who &quot;believe&quot; the government&#039;s story, I would suggest that you ask for a 50 cents an hour raise for posting about your &quot;trust&quot; in the government&#039;s lies, or if you are merely genuinely stupid, perhaps you could read just a little bit before posting your silly diatribes. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml

http://www.freefromterror.net/other_articles/gov_anthrax.html

http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=8520</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t be too concerned with posters accusing you of &quot;wearing a tin foil hat.&quot; People who respond like that are either low-paid government workers on contract from some two-bit CIA front operation, who don&#8217;t even have a clue about why they are being paid $4.25 an hour to post such attack messages, or they are simply stupid people who blindly swallow and accept whatever ridiculous lies that some so-called &quot;authority&quot; figure tells them. </p>
<p>There are plenty of Americans who are very skeptical about 911 and the anthrax story. Of course any thinking person quickly figured out that the anthrax could not have come from some foreign source like the CIA and the media wanted the public to believe. And most thinking people also quickly realized that there was a strong connection between the fear created by the anthrax scare in the wake of 911 and the speedy passage of the so-called &quot;Patriot Act.&quot;</p>
<p>I once met one of the authors of the &quot;Patriot Act,&quot; who was participating in a debate about civil liberties. One of the people in the audience asked him a very important question: &quot;How long were you working on writing your section of the Patriot Act, as it could not have possibly been written in such  short time after 911 happened?&quot;</p>
<p>The Patriot Act lawyer danced around the question, but never gave an answer. So I asked him the question again: &quot;It seems that you still haven&#8217;t answered an earlier question: when did you first start writing the Patriot Act?&quot; Again, he failed to answer the question.</p>
<p>The reason the lawyer dodged the question repeatedly was because the Patriot Act was obviously written LONG BEFORE 911 and the Anthax scare. The shadow government was obviously waiting for just the right opportunity to introduce it.</p>
<p>On the anthrax scare itself, the most obvious thing that any thinking person would recognize is that nearly all of the victims are people that Bush would have liked to get rid of. None of them could be people on an &quot;enemy list&quot; from some so-called terrorist organization overseas.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m sure that I&#8217;m not the only person who wondered what Ivins&#8217; handwriting looked like, having seen samples of the handwriting on letters and envelopes that one of the real insider-terrorist operators prepared. There surely must of been many samples of Ivins&#8217; REAL handwriting available? </p>
<p>Thinking people were not surprised at all that the so-called government &quot;investigators&quot; would NOT produce a SINGLE sample of Ivins&#8217; real handwriting. And the obvious reason for that, I&#8217;m sure, is that it looks NOTHING like the handwriting on those letters and envelopes we&#8217;ve seen that were sent to liberal members of Congress and to the photo-journalist Bob Stevens, who published a picture of Bush&#8217;s drunk daughter Jenna humping another drunk female student in a tabloid publication. (Stevens was the first victim of the anthrax attacks.) Just exactly the person that bin Laden or Ivins would pick, right? </p>
<p>The links below provide plenty of material for thinking people to ponder. As for the posters who &quot;believe&quot; the government&#8217;s story, I would suggest that you ask for a 50 cents an hour raise for posting about your &quot;trust&quot; in the government&#8217;s lies, or if you are merely genuinely stupid, perhaps you could read just a little bit before posting your silly diatribes. <br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml" rel="nofollow">http://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.freefromterror.net/other_articles/gov_anthrax.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.freefromterror.net/other_articles/gov_anthrax.html</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=8520" rel="nofollow">http://www.opednews.com/maxwrite/diarypage.php?did=8520</a></p>
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		<title>By: Randy C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:52:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No. part of the 9/11 investigation.&quot; Dr. Philip Zack, with &quot;Pathogen X&quot; was videotaped assisted by his &quot;good friend&quot; Dr. Marian Rippy An  article I read hinted these guys are responsible. http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13251
The timing seems suspicious, right at the start of the real political season. My guess the issue is political dirty politics to force McCain to drop out of the presidential race. &lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No. part of the 9/11 investigation.&quot; Dr. Philip Zack, with &quot;Pathogen X&quot; was videotaped assisted by his &quot;good friend&quot; Dr. Marian Rippy An  article I read hinted these guys are responsible. <a href="http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13251" rel="nofollow">http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=13251</a><br />
The timing seems suspicious, right at the start of the real political season. My guess the issue is political dirty politics to force McCain to drop out of the presidential race. <br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: cloudwalker</title>
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		<dc:creator>cloudwalker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:23:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;re wasting your breath, they are sheep, they happily drink the Kool-Aid. Those of us who see the lies and KNOW that this administration is the most corrupt admin in the history of the country and if we allow them to continue, by voting in McCain, then we do deserve  whatever we get, and those of us who know will be the ones they bring &quot;justice&quot; to.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re wasting your breath, they are sheep, they happily drink the Kool-Aid. Those of us who see the lies and KNOW that this administration is the most corrupt admin in the history of the country and if we allow them to continue, by voting in McCain, then we do deserve  whatever we get, and those of us who know will be the ones they bring &quot;justice&quot; to.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: picador</title>
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		<dc:creator>picador</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Feb 2010 00:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;A known terrorist?&quot; I don&#039;t think anyone calls him that even after the FBI&#039;s convincing statement today.  Nut case, certainly;  and I understand why you would be inclined to be sympathetic to such a person.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&quot;A known terrorist?&quot; I don&#8217;t think anyone calls him that even after the FBI&#8217;s convincing statement today.  Nut case, certainly;  and I understand why you would be inclined to be sympathetic to such a person.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: dogpatch USA</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogpatch USA</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 23:18:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I watched the presentation by the authorities today and there was not one news person who actually asked a question hinting conspiracy. 
The script was Ivans but not conclusive the envelopes came from his post office and he was traced to new jersey at the right times . however I agree it is not enough to completely rule out homicide made to look like suicide for political reason. case closed .He did fit into a typical type for being chosen as a dupe but it won&#039;t go any farther than the FBI say so.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I watched the presentation by the authorities today and there was not one news person who actually asked a question hinting conspiracy.<br />
The script was Ivans but not conclusive the envelopes came from his post office and he was traced to new jersey at the right times . however I agree it is not enough to completely rule out homicide made to look like suicide for political reason. case closed .He did fit into a typical type for being chosen as a dupe but it won&#8217;t go any farther than the FBI say so.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Zzzzz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Zzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most free thinkers know what this anthrax hoax is all about. The anthrax attacks are no different than 9/11, Inside Job!&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;http://truthcanada.freeforums.org/anthrax-a-bigger-smoking-gun-than-wtc-7-t307.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most free thinkers know what this anthrax hoax is all about. The anthrax attacks are no different than 9/11, Inside Job!<br /><b>References : </b><br /><a href="http://truthcanada.freeforums.org/anthrax-a-bigger-smoking-gun-than-wtc-7-t307.html" rel="nofollow">http://truthcanada.freeforums.org/anthrax-a-bigger-smoking-gun-than-wtc-7-t307.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: John S</title>
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		<dc:creator>John S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:32:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Everyone except you and Alex Jones.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Everyone except you and Alex Jones.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: Pied Hussein Piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pied Hussein Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:08:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do.

But then I don&#039;t fall all over myself at every conspiracy opportunity.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do.</p>
<p>But then I don&#8217;t fall all over myself at every conspiracy opportunity.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ML</title>
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		<dc:creator>ML</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:41:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had to choose, I&#039;d say yes.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had to choose, I&#8217;d say yes.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>By: ♥ Mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>♥ Mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 21:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe it. Why does everything have to be a conspiracy??&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe it. Why does everything have to be a conspiracy??<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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